Curse

knives · Dec 30, 2005, 09:31 PM // 21:31

Attribute refund system ftw.

Worst: Tie between raising prices of buying skills and the aoe nerf. (No more easy farming =(, now I have to actually kill them.)

QuixotesGhost · Dec 30, 2005, 09:38 PM // 21:38

New target interface that shows timer bar for target's skills.

-Trying to interupt with that old "fade in - fade out" system bleh.

Pretty much all the updates to the feedback interface, pet and hex damage displayed, energy drain and gain, ect.

Baratheon79 · Dec 30, 2005, 10:42 PM // 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuixotesGhost

New target interface that shows timer bar for target's skills.

-Trying to interupt with that old "fade in - fade out" system bleh.

I would have to second this one, even though I don't often go out with interrupts (I mostly play my Warrior/Ranger, with Tiger's Fury as the only ranger skill on my skill bar).

Other favorite changes:
- Removal of attribute refunds (the old system was occasionally a pain, even though it didn't often create problems for me personally)
- Pet damage display - I like see how much damage my pet's doing, on those rare occasions when I actually take it with me.
- The AoE nerf (I'm sure people will hate me for this one

) - While it can be inconvenient for many nukers, I've found that this can actually prove useful in some situations.

Andy_M · Dec 30, 2005, 11:06 PM // 23:06

Seeing as getting to UW ect is still dependant on favour I guess Sorrows Furnace. Oh yeah, all the nerfs were amusing - if only for observing forum ranting...

hidden_agenda · Dec 30, 2005, 11:08 PM // 23:08

#1- Halloween / Wintersday updates
#2- Removal of skill-point xp-based refund system
#3- Ability to toggle the helmet and cloak
#4- Sorrow's Furnace update

lg5000 · Dec 30, 2005, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Didn't it get released in 2005? I'd say that was the best change.

Other than that, the refund points is awsome (the fact they don't exist anymore) and the toggle cape thingy

Fear The Destroyer · Dec 30, 2005, 11:19 PM // 23:19

Attribute refund ftw.

Chreelister · Dec 31, 2005, 01:33 AM // 01:33

You got a refund attribute point back every 250xp and could have a max of 24 refund attribute points at one time.

As far as the number one change for me is just each and every FREE addition to the game, very numerous free additions at that too. GJ A-Net. It, to me, is a total shocker and unheard of in any other game I have ever played that was free. All game companies release tweaks and nerfs, but A-Net just about released enough add-ons and extras to merit an expansion pack or you would think they would have saved all of that for good start on one, and it was all free.

Noticed I did say additions and not changes

, although the removal of the point buy back system was a good change.

ScorchedSun · Dec 31, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

1) I'd say the free Sorrow's Furnace Update and everything that came in it.
2) The refund points stuff.
3) Anet's commitment to continued balancing of skills.

Konrow · Dec 31, 2005, 01:43 AM // 01:43

i'm going with the majority and saying the refund ppoints being taken away was definitely the best, the holiday events come in second and third would be sorrows furnace.

chippxero · Dec 31, 2005, 01:49 AM // 01:49

1.Refund points
2.AI (AoE) change

seut · Dec 31, 2005, 03:49 AM // 03:49

a) refund points
b) change of skill-capping from 'while cast' to 'dead boss'
c) faction

rotaulave · Dec 31, 2005, 04:22 AM // 04:22

I completely disagree about the attribute points i accutually like it.

1) The reason i say it was so good before ,you could change up in the middle
of a mission, for instance you fighting your way somewhere and then
realize you need to run, so transfer everything to Str and tactics
in mid-stream.

You could change you setup in mid-battle if something wasnt working

1) it was easy to get back to 24, took maybe 30min of farming.

So because of that i say Sorrows was the best update.

And the worse one was

of course AoE 11-10, and the axe nerf, lost big on that one.

Spiteful Soul · Dec 31, 2005, 05:33 AM // 05:33

I dont understand. What is this point refund thing?
Did I missed out on something?

CAT · Dec 31, 2005, 05:49 AM // 05:49

Favorite Nerf:
Spirits/Natures <3

Favorite Impliment:
Faction

Favorite Fix:
Improving Ghostly hero capping area

Notable mentions:
observer mode
wintersday/halloween
displaying the guild rank in tombs matches

Hopefulls:
-the death of pets effect IWAY( i send a bug report every time i fight iway, if heal party/aegis doesnt effect pets then IWAY should not)
-more shit to do in the guild hall

Da Immortal King · Jan 15, 2006, 01:50 AM // 01:50

Thank god they got rid of refund points back when i first got the game and i was noob. I had spreaded all of my points into all of the categories and i deleted my char due to this.

theclam · Jan 15, 2006, 02:18 AM // 02:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiteful Soul

I dont understand. What is this point refund thing?
Did I missed out on something?

Back when the game was released, you had to spend a refund point every time you wanted to take a point out of an attribute. IIRC, you'd get a refund point every 250 exp and you could have a max of 24 refund points. You could change your attributes back then in the middle of a mission, but it was still a pain, especially for Monks (Monks change builds very often; farming --> protection --> healing --> farming).

My favorite changes:
1. Faction
2. Refund Points
3. Observer Mode

Effendi Westland · Jan 15, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Here's mine in order:

1 - Kicking refund points.
2 - Faction and then the getting more per kill.
3 - Enemies skill bar under health.

I wasn't around when you couldn't put money in storage, but i saw it in the posts before. If I had been round when you couldn't, it would've made my top 3.

Edit - forgot refund points, so observer mode didn't make it :P

Edit 2 - hmm so seeing enemies skills bumped the AoE nerf outta it too.

chris_nin00 · Jan 15, 2006, 02:50 AM // 02:50

Tons of stuff win this award for me...

-AI change... No harm done

-No refund points.
-Toggable capes
-More faction gained
-Sorrow's furnace

Observation mode doesn't cut it for me... I want to watch my own battles dammit

.

Banebow · Jan 15, 2006, 03:02 AM // 03:02

1) All the balance changes (nature's renewal, changing quick shot, etc)
2) Sorrow's Furnace (that update was desperately needed to liven up the PvE part of the game)
3) Making signet of capture work on dead bosses rather than only right after a skill is used. (imagine trying to cap, say, practiced stance. Back then, you didn't get to see when the enemy used a stance

)

I never had a huge problem with refund points, I just had to be careful not to change between marksmanship ranger and wilderness survival ranger to often. Not that I don't like unlimited refunds, I was just never really hit hard by the limit.

Same thing with allowing gold in the storage. At the time of the update, I don't think I had 10k to my name, heck, I don't think I had bothered to open up my storage yet. It too is another change that should probably be on my "top three" (I know, I know, this is supposed to be the best change, not top three

) but since I never suffered under it I cannot compare it with what it is now.